gladlator

Hi, and welcome back to another "cry me a river" topic. I started this one long time ago - 30.11. 2016: i come back to play here and test some fixes 18.01.2017 (almost 2 months). still no love and not even one fix for holy paladins. important talents / pvp talents / artefact weapon traits are not working. (also all golden traits on the weapon are not working) talent pvp/pve wise are not working: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196926/crusaders-might http://www.wowhead.com/spell=183425/devotion-aura http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196923/fervent-martyr http://www.wowhead.com/spell=156910/beacon-of-faith (for ppl who talk without knowing the class/spec/spells take a look on google/youtube that all paladins auras are affecting him in the first time and after party i suggest one more time use google/youtube for that) spells that are broken: basic spell for holy (all other spec recive this fix - holy don't need it) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20271/judgment totaly useless not adding any damage. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31821/aura-mastery all auras are working partial or incomplete same with aura mastery - complete nothing. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=85222/light-of-dawn spell power coefficient is lower than normal. (the only aoe healing spell for paladin good for pve/pvp wise) - is total garbage. have to be 180% spell power coefficient * talents * weapon traits *mastery * versatility my stats > my healing > must be 68k healing non crit is total low (45k even with my garbage stats is low). also the pvp talent for this is not working so the spell is also usless in pvp same like pve. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=190784/divine-steed don't work also don't stack with http://www.wowhead.com/spell=190784/divine-steed artifact traits + golden traits: artifact for holy start "PERFECT" from start. basic artifact weapon spell NOT working but visual is ok, i like it : http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200654/tyrs-deliverance http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200302/knight-of-the-silver-hand complete broken nothing not even visual http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200474/power-of-the-silver-hand complete broken, visual work. how must this work? simple, after this spell proc till next holy shock you cast you stack and add to next holy shock healing 10% of all your damage and healing (effective healing means that all overhealing is not added) this is huge in pvp and pve thats why is GOLDEN trait. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200296/expel-the-darkness http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200482/second-sunrise totaly garbage bouth. + the pvp talent for them http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200430/protection-of-tyr total gabage also. also GOLDEN trait another GOLDEN trait (ups last one we have only 3) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200421/the-light-saves this one is the cream and butter of this spec. totally broken (so you didn't quit yet and respec or change the class? you want more pain? than you start doing pvp till prestige 2+ to feel the pain train even more) PVP talent http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210294/divine-favor broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199330/cleanse-the-weak broken (not working vs spell/dot cleaves) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216327/lights-grace broken (proc from all healing) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199424/pure-of-heart broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199422/holy-ritual broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199441/avenging-light broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199452/ultimate-sacrifice broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210378/darkest-before-the-dawn broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199456/spreading-the-word broken http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216331/avenging-crusader broken (only visual working) i test this in arena after reset to prestige3 and: -visual work (change spell icon and pop debuf) -not increase in healing, no damage bonus, no damage convert to healing to paladin and 2 friendly party members nothing) -after 1 min if you want to use it again is not working (the spell keep the old cooldown from old wings not normal 1 min cooldown) totaly BROKEN. in case you're wondering why all this talents and spells are so important for this unique melee healer class just think about the design of the class. to be effective you have to stay in melee range to enemy target or friendly target (you open yourself to damage / hard swaps /cc and all that good stuff) is a spec dependent on cooldowns and pro (rly pro) reactive healer. is not like you hot all party after some pilon and you wait for a opener. you need to be there face to face. you can counter with your talents and pvp talents all comps ingame on the server what to counter? npc in dalaran sewers? more than half CORE spells/ talents/artifact traits are not working. also all 3 GOLDEN traits are for nothing. you have to rotate healing tactics (if not you are oom in 2min max) just think about this. also why posting in your changelog update fixes that are never done? better don't post anything because you work 2 times for nothing. in case you wonder how i get ak / ap no need to pm/w inagme or stuff like that. -you need to vote daily (or donate if you have $) -you need to farm cor(class order resources) -make every 4 days your ak scroll + daily missions in class hall -make 200-300 arena per day + all hcs to farm more ap in 2 months you are done.

i have ak +500% and also i have weapon lvl (if i remember 18 on main and +16 on some alts) also in the last 3 weeks i never play (only log in to make ak every 9 days and missions for ap) i will start to play again after they open some mythic/raids or some pvp season. about exploiting i dont think im the guy for it. im to old and stupid to do exploits. cya and have a happy new year.

#12 updates and still no love or interest to add some fixes to this uniq spec in legion. holy paladin - the only spec ingame who have to be in mele range, who have to do damage to be efficient and increase his hps, who don't have cc and can get chain cc'd for ever. core spells for holy paladin that are not working from the beginning of the server legion patch and no1 care: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20271/judgment the core for damage (working for ret spec but not for holy) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196926/crusaders-might not working. (another core talent for those who like to dps like healer) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31821/aura-mastery+ any aura not working (we are healers in mele range but still we can't use any of this) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=85222/light-of-dawn. not scaling with spell power useless spell , must have 180%spell power coefficient + weapon traits but still nothing. i have 31k sp and i heal with this 44k is a joke for healing now for pvp (this is my opinion and what i like to use , for sure are more) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196926/crusaders-might http://www.wowhead.com/spell=115750/blinding-light http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210294/divine-favor http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210378/darkest-before-the-dawn http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216331/avenging-crusader none of them are working. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=115750/blinding-light u can't do holy damage target immediately get out of cc http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210294/divine-favor you get silence can't cast even if u have the icon on bufs (tested +1k times) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210378/darkest-before-the-dawn the scaling from sp+ artefact weapon traits are so low and the healing from this talent are not working. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216331/avenging-crusader the core of this unique spec is to have burst every minute. in this expansion we are doom as holy paladins to stay in melee range, at least to do it with style. in all my arena / bgs / dungeons run i feel like a heal bot. i can't do damage , i can't do plays i can't come with something new to the playstile. i play this spec and for me the "element of surprise is 0" im not crying about all the weapon traits that are not working, like: basic weapon skill http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200652/tyrs-deliverance not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200296/expel-the-darkness not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200302/knight-of-the-silver-hand not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200421/the-light-saves not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200327/share-the-burden not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200430/protection-of-tyr not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200482/second-sunrise not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200316/justice-through-sacrifice not working .......i know you have too much work and too much on your back but when you have a little bit of time just take a look on this uniq spec and show us some love. thank you.

by farming arena with paladins alts and doing more than 6k arena till now on this server.

update #1: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=214855/tyrs-deliverance artefact weapon spell - not working.

Holy Paladin - after starting to play a holy paladin from the beginning and testing all spell and talents in more than 1k bgs / 5k arenas and hundreds of dungeons this is what is working and what is not. This is not a guide or a cry wall - its just a post for ppl. who want to play this spec and they don't know what is working or not. For sure i made some mistakes here if you notice tham feel free to post and be constructive. If you wish to respond to something by disagreeing with it. That’s fine. But, remember to criticize the ideas, not me. thanks. Spells: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=213428/artificial-damage most important - silver hand trait 1% damage for every trait purchase up to 34 traits is not working. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20271/judgment the base spell of holy spec , only damage part working, don't give bonus to 30% increased damage from your Crusader Strike and Holy Shock for 6 sec or After Judgment strikes an enemy, all damage you take for the next 4 sec is reduced by 10%. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53563/beacon-of-light dont give mana back http://www.wowhead.com/spell=4987/cleanse dont clean all, just 1 or 2 or nothing. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=85222/light-of-dawn spell power coefficients for this spell are wrong calculated at 30k spell power + artefact traits 15% heal for 44k - (if you don't know your spell power use DejaCharacterStats703r17 addon ) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31821/aura-mastery not working no matter what aura you have active. Holy Paladin Talents http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196926/crusaders-might not working. (good talent for burst and for short windows of damage very important in conjunction with other offensive talents) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=115750/blinding-ligh working partial (only blind part working) - the part with DON'T break on holy damage is not working so you can't hit with holy damage the target that is in cc) all auras and their aura mastery - they don't work http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20066/repentance damage part not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196923/fervent-martyr not working http://www.wowhead.com/spell=156910/beacon-of-faith not working Holy Paladin PVP Talents the most important talents here are not working. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210294/divine-favor not working (i get silence with this buff up on me - only visual) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216327/lights-grace not working ( proc from every healing, dont give 100% bonus to holy light ( give 50% only) also the buff 15% damage reduction is only visual http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210378/darkest-before-the-dawn - not working (this talent is the new loh for pvp http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216331/avenging-crusader - not working. Holy Paladin Weapon half of the weapon talents are not working or proc give bonus randomly http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200302/knight-of-the-silver-hand no damage reduction http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200373/vindicator sometimes working and some arena dont proc ever http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200474/power-of-the-silver-hand proc from all spells but doing nothing/ only visual Future updates will be done here, thank you for reading.

fist of fury is hitting 20k in 4 sec. you recive more than 10-12 hits = bug RSK and WDP are hitting 400k+ on platers with more than 50% damage reduction talents = bug playing with a rogue , no dr on stuns you stay perma stun 14-16 sec if trinket on cd = bug healing full hp and no need to w8 for energy = bug ... negative bugs transcendence and tt not working. but, great video i like it , keep them coming.

working ok, no bug here. made this print today (22.12.2015) http://i.imgur.com/2pCHVXW.jpg

after using google translate, this come out: " Hi, I 70l Palladyn play the Allies recently changed his build on holly and holly noticed the shock has a lot less damage than it should have, for example has a dmg 463 and 69 beats after a while Seal of Insight wogule does not cure the damage is asking so much from my side " the answer is: holy paladind damage is ok.