Legion - Show some Love to Holy Paladins

[gladlator]

Hi, and welcome back to another "cry me a river" topic.
I started this one long time ago - 30.11. 2016: 

i come back to play here and test some fixes 18.01.2017 (almost 2 months). still no love and not even one fix for holy paladins.
important talents / pvp talents / artefact weapon traits are not working. (also all golden traits on the weapon are not working)

talent pvp/pve wise are not working:
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196926/crusaders-might

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=183425/devotion-aura

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=196923/fervent-martyr

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=156910/beacon-of-faith

(for ppl who talk without knowing the class/spec/spells take a look on google/youtube that all paladins auras are affecting him in the first time and after party i suggest one more time use  google/youtube for that)

spells that are broken:

basic spell for holy (all other spec recive this fix - holy don't need it)
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20271/judgment totaly useless not adding any damage.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31821/aura-mastery

all auras are working partial or incomplete same with aura mastery - complete nothing.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=85222/light-of-dawn

spell power coefficient is lower than normal. (the only aoe healing spell for paladin good for pve/pvp wise) - is total garbage.
have to be 180% spell power coefficient * talents * weapon traits *mastery * versatility
my stats >

my healing >


must be 68k healing non crit is total low (45k even with my garbage stats is low). also the pvp talent for this is not working so the spell is also usless in pvp same like pve.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=190784/divine-steed
don't work also don't stack with http://www.wowhead.com/spell=190784/divine-steed

artifact traits + golden traits:
artifact for holy start "PERFECT" from start.
basic artifact weapon spell NOT working but visual is ok, i like it : http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200654/tyrs-deliverance

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200302/knight-of-the-silver-hand
complete broken nothing not even visual

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200474/power-of-the-silver-hand
complete broken, visual work. how must this work? simple, after this spell proc till next holy shock you cast you stack and add to next holy shock healing 10% of all your damage and healing (effective healing means that all overhealing is not added) this is huge in pvp and pve thats why is GOLDEN trait.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200296/expel-the-darkness

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200482/second-sunrise

totaly garbage bouth. + the pvp talent for them

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200430/protection-of-tyr

total gabage also. also GOLDEN trait

another GOLDEN trait (ups last one we have only 3) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=200421/the-light-saves
this one is the cream and butter of this spec. totally broken

(so you didn't quit yet and respec or change the class? you want more pain? than you start doing pvp till prestige 2+ to feel the pain train even more)
PVP talent
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210294/divine-favor
broken
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199330/cleanse-the-weak
broken (not working vs spell/dot cleaves)
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216327/lights-grace

broken (proc from all healing)
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199424/pure-of-heart

broken
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199422/holy-ritual

broken
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199441/avenging-light

broken

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199452/ultimate-sacrifice

broken

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=210378/darkest-before-the-dawn

broken

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=199456/spreading-the-word

broken

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216331/avenging-crusader

broken (only visual working)
i test this in arena after reset to prestige3 and:
-visual work (change spell icon and pop debuf)
-not increase in healing, no damage bonus, no damage convert to healing to paladin and 2 friendly party members nothing)
-after 1 min if you want to use it again is not working (the spell keep the old cooldown from old wings not normal 1 min cooldown)
totaly BROKEN.

in case you're wondering why all this talents and spells are so important for this unique melee healer class just think about the design of the class.
to be effective you have to stay in melee range to enemy target or friendly target (you open yourself to damage / hard swaps /cc and all that good stuff)
is a spec dependent on cooldowns and pro (rly pro) reactive healer. is not like you hot all party after some pilon and you wait for a opener. you need to be there face to face.
you can counter with your talents and pvp talents all comps ingame on the server what to counter? npc in dalaran sewers? more than half CORE spells/ talents/artifact traits are not working. also all 3 GOLDEN traits are for nothing.
you have to rotate healing tactics (if not you are oom in 2min max)

just think about  this. also why posting in your changelog update fixes that are never done? better don't post anything because you work 2 times for nothing.

in case you wonder how i get ak / ap no need to pm/w inagme or stuff like that.
-you need to vote daily (or donate if you have $)
-you need to farm cor(class order resources)
-make every 4 days your ak scroll + daily missions in class hall
-make 200-300 arena per day + all hcs to farm more ap
in 2 months you are done.

 

 

[souna100]

7 hours ago, gladlator said:

Hi, and welcome back to another "cry me a river" topic.
I started this one long time ago - 30.11. 2016: 

i come back to play here and test some fixes 18.01.2017 (almost 2 months). still no love and not even one fix for holy paladins.
important talents / pvp talents / artefact weapon traits are not working. (also all golden traits on the weapon are not working)

talent pvp/pve wise are not working:
Crusader's Might

Devotion Aura

Fervent Martyr

Beacon of Faith

(for ppl who talk without knowing the class/spec/spells take a look on google/youtube that all paladins auras are affecting him in the first time and after party i suggest one more time use  google/youtube for that)

spells that are broken:

basic spell for holy (all other spec recive this fix - holy don't need it)
Judgmenttotaly useless not adding any damage.

Aura Mastery

all auras are working partial or incomplete same with aura mastery - complete nothing.

Light of Dawn

spell power coefficient is lower than normal. (the only aoe healing spell for paladin good for pve/pvp wise) - is total garbage.
have to be 180% spell power coefficient * talents * weapon traits *mastery * versatility
my stats >

my healing >


must be 68k healing non crit is total low (45k even with my garbage stats is low). also the pvp talent for this is not working so the spell is also usless in pvp same like pve.

Divine Steed
don't work also don't stack with Divine Steed

artifact traits + golden traits:
artifact for holy start "PERFECT" from start.
basic artifact weapon spell NOT working but visual is ok, i like it : Tyr's Deliverance

Knight of the Silver Hand
complete broken nothing not even visual

Power of the Silver Hand
complete broken, visual work. how must this work? simple, after this spell proc till next holy shock you cast you stack and add to next holy shock healing 10% of all your damage and healing (effective healing means that all overhealing is not added) this is huge in pvp and pve thats why is GOLDEN trait.

Expel the Darkness

Second Sunrise

totaly garbage bouth. + the pvp talent for them

Protection of Tyr

total gabage also. also GOLDEN trait

another GOLDEN trait (ups last one we have only 3) The Light Saves
this one is the cream and butter of this spec. totally broken

(so you didn't quit yet and respec or change the class? you want more pain? than you start doing pvp till prestige 2+ to feel the pain train even more)
PVP talent
Divine Favor
broken
Cleanse the Weak
broken (not working vs spell/dot cleaves)
Light's Grace

broken (proc from all healing)
Pure of Heart

broken
Holy Ritual

broken
Avenging Light

broken

Ultimate Sacrifice

broken

Darkest before the Dawn

broken

Spreading the Word

broken

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=216331/avenging-crusader

broken (only visual working)
i test this in arena after reset to prestige3 and:
-visual work (change spell icon and pop debuf)
-not increase in healing, no damage bonus, no damage convert to healing to paladin and 2 friendly party members nothing)
-after 1 min if you want to use it again is not working (the spell keep the old cooldown from old wings not normal 1 min cooldown)
totaly BROKEN.

in case you're wondering why all this talents and spells are so important for this unique melee healer class just think about the design of the class.
to be effective you have to stay in melee range to enemy target or friendly target (you open yourself to damage / hard swaps /cc and all that good stuff)
is a spec dependent on cooldowns and pro (rly pro) reactive healer. is not like you hot all party after some pilon and you wait for a opener. you need to be there face to face.
you can counter with your talents and pvp talents all comps ingame on the server what to counter? npc in dalaran sewers? more than half CORE spells/ talents/artifact traits are not working. also all 3 GOLDEN traits are for nothing.
you have to rotate healing tactics (if not you are oom in 2min max)

just think about  this. also why posting in your changelog update fixes that are never done? better don't post anything because you work 2 times for nothing.

in case you wonder how i get ak / ap no need to pm/w inagme or stuff like that.
-you need to vote daily (or donate if you have $)
-you need to farm cor(class order resources)
-make every 4 days your ak scroll + daily missions in class hall
-make 200-300 arena per day + all hcs to farm more ap
in 2 months you are done.

 

 

where to farm order resources?? 

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